WARNING. POLITICS. WARNING.

"Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh" (andymcbradleigh) 08/10/2015 at 17:55 • Filed to: None

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You’re still with me? Have a kitten.

Still there? Good, you came here because you’re curious..

What I’d like to know.. is... HOW THE FUCK does Mr Bad Hair Bloody Maniac Trump lead the poll amongst the republicans?

TheHondaBro > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 17:57

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Speaking of which, if that thing gets elected, can I move in with you?

My citroen won't start > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 17:58

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Republicans are insane.

Go Bernie!

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > TheHondaBro 08/10/2015 at 17:58

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I’d invite every single American to live in Norway then. Not sure my government would approve but.. Sure :)

Brickman > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 17:58

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Money....

TheOnelectronic > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 17:59

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A mix of morbid curiosity and “Fuck it, why not?”

People get so tied up in his say-anything personality and “But he’s not a politician!” that they don’t even care about his actual political views.

whoarder is tellurium > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 17:59

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Oooh boy. Hes a real winner too. In fact, just too damn old.

Ffffffuuuuu

Jedidiah > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 17:59

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Trump is the loud-mouth, overconfident asshole that people can rally behind.

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:00

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Because he is tapping into a hatred of government that many people on the right have. Also, what he said about immigration really resonates with some people.

No part of me supports trump. But it is an amusing side show while also wounding the republican party along the way.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > TheOnelectronic 08/10/2015 at 18:00

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So.. They would give him a vote just because he’s famous? People don’t care that the only thing he cares about is his own wealth?

My citroen won't start > whoarder is tellurium 08/10/2015 at 18:01

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Bernie is the only politician word-wide that I actually like, our mayor comes to mind, but Bernie is miles ahead.

Bandit > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:01

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Preface: I don’t pick sides and I think all candidates suck.

My theory is that some sector of Americans are refreshed to hear someone who isn’t afraid to speak their mind about some topic (even if the thought is racist, degrading, etc.). Idk, that’s just my thought.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Brickman 08/10/2015 at 18:01

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Well, yeah, but HIS money.. Money he’s spending so he himself can have even more money.. As a dumb commie from Europe I can’t fathom this :)

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:02

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I’m not sure Bernie is the best choice, but he’s the one I’d’ve given my vote for sure.

TheOnelectronic > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:04

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In their minds, a big problem with our government is that it’s run by “politicians,” and they figure he is not one, and so he won’t be afraid to GET THINGS DONE. Other think he’s a businessman (which is hilarious because he’s failed really spectacularly over and over at that) and therefore he’ll know how to fix the economy. They just ignore the multiple times he’s declared bankruptcy.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Bandit 08/10/2015 at 18:04

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Probably true. I actually get rather frightened when I see the lack of diversity when it comes to politicians in the US.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 08/10/2015 at 18:05

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That thing about Mexicans ended up being quite funny though, did not take long before we had some heave “row row row your boat” action from Mr Trump about that. But yeah, I see what you say. I still don’t understand :)

Makoyouidiot > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:06

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As a republican, I can honestly say that my party might be insane

nermal > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:06

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People like that he’s honest. You gotta give the guy some credit for having the confidence that he does, along with the conviction for his cause. He’s right about several things, although hasn’t really presented any solutions beyond building the Great Wall of Mexico. To be fair, none of the other candidates really have either.

Also, he’s not a Bush or a Clinton, and is definitely not Obama. That alone will get a significant portion of the vote.

My citroen won't start > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:06

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He is the only choice for me, he won’t win, I know that, America is too afraid of anything even remotely related to socialism, but the fact that a candidate not bought by big banks and big companies got this much popularity is already a win in my book.

Baeromez > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:06

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Theories aside, the 100% real reason is name recognition. The reason candidates spend so much money on campaigns is just to get their names out there. You’re not going to vote for someone you’ve never heard of.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:07

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I won’t deny his honest track record, but he is insane on the oppossite end. He is a little too left winged. We don’t need an open Socialist.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > nermal 08/10/2015 at 18:08

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But he’s not really honest though is he? He says one thing first, a few hours later he says something different.

But I guess you’re right about the not Bush, Clinton or Obama part :)

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:09

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It isn’t that they like Trump, it’s that all of the other candidates are almost equally loathsome while also being boring and without any sort of substance. The appeal of Trump right now appears to be that he doesn’t practice and is unashamedly not a politician, which is kinda refreshing even though he’s bat shit crazy.

What I would love is for all the other candidates to wind up in a “Liar Liar” situation where they have to say exactly what they think. Trump wouldn’t change, because he tells you exactly what he thinks...but everybody else? I’m not voting for any of them, but I’m slightly more troubled by what I don’t know about them than what I do know about Trump, if that makes sense.

Basically, come next year we’re fucked.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Baeromez 08/10/2015 at 18:09

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Yeah, and I guess that’s the problem with how the whole thing works over there sadly :(

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:11

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But that is exactly what america needs, it is clear that blatant liberalism only led to the richer getting even richer and the poor getting even poorer, people have a conception that Socialism=Communism and that everyone will work in coal mines. Socialism (or Bernie’s watered down Social Democracy) grants more equality while maintaining social freedoms and getting the whole population the service they so desperately need.

Baeromez > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:11

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It’s only one of an infinite amount of problems with our government.

Your boy, BJR > TheOnelectronic 08/10/2015 at 18:11

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Also the bailouts most of his companies have received under the condition he was fired.

nermal > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:11

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He comes across as not-a-politician.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Makoyouidiot 08/10/2015 at 18:13

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Naaah.. not everyone.. Uhm.. I mean.. Uhh.. Sorry, I can’t think of one Republican candidate I deem somewhat sane. :/

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:13

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Because he’s “honest”.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:14

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Don’t get me wrong now. I think he’s great, but he’s not even remotely a socialist :) Social democrat perhaps.. almost.. somewhat :) But I get your point.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > TheOnelectronic 08/10/2015 at 18:15

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Confirmed what I thought right there.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:15

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The same reason an idiot who called herself a “maverick” all the time did, and look where that got them.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:16

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It’s not the fiscal responsibilities I’m worried about with him, it’s the fact that he is too soft. He is the overprotective mother. It’s the “If a minority isn’t responsible with it, let’s control it from the majority” mindset that I don’t agree with.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Baeromez 08/10/2015 at 18:16

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HEEEY... You’ve got the best gubment that ever was :)

Yeah, I can see that.

AntisocialCarpetbagger > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:16

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Bill Hicks pretty much summed up American politics 20+ years ago:

Svend > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:17

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He’s not the first. Let’s not forget the two Republicans, one said a woman can’t get pregnant if she gets raped because the body won’t let it and the other who said if a woman gets pregnant from being raped, it’s god’s way of giving something good back for going through something so traumatic.

Mind I think the worst from a European take was when there was that shooting incident in France and Trump said if everyone in France had a gun then they would of had a chance or made it more equal. Sheer madness.

My citroen won't start > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:18

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That’s what I meant, he isn’t a socialist by EU/South American/Asian standards, but for America he is as socialist as any modern candidate will ever be.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 08/10/2015 at 18:18

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I would not say you’re fucked. Trump won’t win.. they’ll find a way to keep him away. I’m more worried about you lot ending up with Paul Rand.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > nermal 08/10/2015 at 18:18

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True, because he’s the one buying himself :P

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:20

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True. Not that I think he’s the right choice, nor do I think he’ll win.. but imagine if he did.. THAT would be cause for riots in a few states I’d say.

EL_ULY > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:22

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i’d move if only people over there liked metal music and building awesome over powered cars.... I doubt that tho

My citroen won't start > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:22

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Yes, if the brain-dead called Obama a Socialist/Communist/Terrorist, I can’t even begin to imagine the backlash of a president that thinks himself as a socialist.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:25

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I don’t think I follow that, what do you mean with “If a minority isn’t responsible with it, let’s control it from the majority"?

PanchoVilleneuve ST > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:26

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Because he’s the only candidate in the GOP field who isn’t all JESUS JESUS JESUS! GOD SPOKE TO ME AND SAID TO BAN ABORTIONS! STOP THOSE HORRIBLE GAYS! BAN EVERYTHING! I AM TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REST OF AMERICA AS FAR AS SOCIAL POLICY GOES! JESUS!

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > PanchoVilleneuve ST 08/10/2015 at 18:29

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He’s pretty much quite “ME FIRST THEN ME THEN ME THEN ME THEN ME THEN ME AND FUCK MEXICANS” though :P

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:30

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You’d have another civil war on your hands I’d say.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > EL_ULY 08/10/2015 at 18:30

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Yeah, we HATE metal and insane cars :P

PanchoVilleneuve ST > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:30

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He still is, depressingly, the least insane candidate, in a really weird way.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:32

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Just an FYI, Bernie is about as much of a Socialist as Obama belongs to the Tea Party :)

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > PanchoVilleneuve ST 08/10/2015 at 18:34

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True, that’s what worries me about the political system in the US.. You ain’t got no monies.. you ain’t gonna be a politician. Here in Norway though.. I don’t have a job, I have no education, I’m a candidate in my local election now.

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:35

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Andrew, lots of factors are at play. Illegal immigration is a huge problem here. People that come here illegally (not just those from Mexico) are a huge drain on the economy. They use services they don’t pay for (since they aren’t citizens, they don’t pay taxes), are somehow allowed to vote (even though they’re not citizens), and are even granted driver’s licenses (even though they aren’t citizens). Legal immigration is great. Our country was founded on immigrants, and they add so much to our culture and economy. But when you’ve got cartel violence from Mexico coming through our relatively porous southern border and putting our citizens at risk, this creates problems for us.

Please note that Trump’s statements, while inflammatory, were not racist (Mexican is a nationality, not a race). He said that Mexico was sending rapists and other criminals, not that all Mexicans were rapists and criminals. True or not, this is not a racist statement. It’s easy to say that all of Trump’s supporters are racists who hate Mexicans, but that’s false. While I’m not really a fan of Trump, nor do I agree with everything he has to say, you have to admit that the dude has balls. When he says something, he stands firm and doesn’t back down. That’s something I admire about him, and something you rarely see in Washington. That’s why Republicans are excited about him.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:38

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Well it’s more a media swayed thing, but Bernie has taken the bait. Example:

Male 1: Stabs family to death.

Male 2: Shoots family to death.

Male 1 makes local news, it’s a local tragedy, but nothing more.

Male 2 makes national news. The media makes the left outraged. They call for the banning of guns. All while painting a picture that the police is militarizing and going to kill us all. All for one man doing the same as another man, just with a different weapon that is already harder to get.

He takes side of those who get offended, whether or not they have a personal reason to or not. Guns don’t kill people. Knives don’t kill people. Spoons didn’t make me fat. The car didn’t kill Princess Diana. Irresponsability causes/caused all of that. When I was in high school, kids kept guns in there trucks. No one was ever shot. No one was threatened. We just all had the respect to know what that gun could do if we were to be foolish with it. We need less dumbing down and getting offended. That is the last thing we need.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:42

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I have to disagree with you on that, I’m incredibly anti-gun ownership, not even police officers should have weapons unless in extreme dire situations, it is such a pointless exercise and most if not all gun bans around the world resulted in fewer massacres, murder-sprees and so on. Why the fuck would someone outside of a war-zone need a gun?

And you are right, spoons don’t make people fat, a dismal availability of healthy/organic food for the lower classes make people fat, giant companies with little to no supervision make people fat.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:43

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He is self proclaimed socialist then.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE 08/10/2015 at 18:44

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I’d say you’ve got bigger problems than a few illegal immigrants though, things like wages you could actually make a living off. I’m not saying you DO NOT have a problem with illegal immigrants though, but to hunt them down like cattle won’t solve your problems. And I bet that 3-4% of the people doing menial jobs in the US are illegal immigrants, I can hardly imagine the average US citizen doing those jobs.

I’m not saying that Trump OR his followers are racists, but I’m pretty damn well sure they are bloody hypocrites (don’t tell me Trump does not employ illegals to save money).

The thing is, you built your country on a dream, a dream that sadly won’t work anymore. Poor people can’t afford insurance for this and that without some help from the government.

I don’t see Trump as having balls, he only cares about himself, he inherited a TON of money.. he would be nowhere without that. Yet he acts like he’s self made.

Edit: wrote 30-40% when I meant to write 3-4%.. I’ve fixed it now.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:45

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Oh I don't think we're fucked because Trump will win (he won't), I think we're fucked no matter who wins because by and large all the candidates are faulty.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 08/10/2015 at 18:46

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Kinda my point yes. But I’m not really in a position to say, I don’t live in the US.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:47

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That he is. I just don’t want people to confuse that with real socialism.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:49

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If this were a utopia that never saw the introduction of guns, there would be none. But since it has been proven that even of they are illegal, you can still get them, there is a need. Nothing good has ever come of only the bad having guns. For example gun free zones.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:52

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Ehh, I think that Rand Paul would actually be one of the less loathsome Republicans. It’s Scott Walker that I’m really worried about.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:54

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How local? As in how many people could you potentially represent?

RustedSprinter > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 18:54

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Go back to Reddit Bernie! You cant stump the Trump.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 18:54

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Yes, a small amount of people will still find illegal ways to acquire guns, but giving everyone guns is just fuel to the banalization of violence , giving people even more ways to murder one another is clearly not the best choice.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 08/10/2015 at 18:56

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Walker? He’s the one that said you can’t have an abortion even if the pregnancy is a result of rape right? The man he think spending money on clean energy is insane? Yeah, he’s insane.. Rand Paul is still a Tea Party man.. but yeah, I’d forgot about Walker.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 08/10/2015 at 18:58

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I live in a town with about 30k people. I’m the second highest on the list for my party.. but hardly anyone votes for us though.. The thing is, if I’d been a candidate for the biggest party I could end up as Mayor in my town.

Edit: this is a local election, not for government. But it’s the same thing there. I could end up as a Prime minister even though I don’t have a job and no money.

Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 18:59

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You’re in Norway, right? Just ignore it. Trump won’t last. This is the freak show round. This is all just a distraction from the oligarchy that my country has somehow become. Mark my words, it will come down to another fucking Bush and probably another fucking Clinton in the end.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:01

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And Mike Huckabee, Chris Christie, and that Ted Cruz psychopath are each every bit as bad, though none of them have the terrifying electoral potential of Walker.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Mr. Ontop, No Strokes, No Smokes...Goes Fast. 08/10/2015 at 19:03

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I’m in Norway indeed. The thing is, I won’t ignore it, I find it fascinating as fuck. I realise I can do toss all about your election, but I’ve been a politician for 20 years, so I like to hear what other people think.

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:03

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Now that is a legitimate democracy.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 19:03

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Actually that’s the complete opposite of the truth. Kennesaw, GA actually had an 85% drop in violent crime below the national average, AFTER they mandated that every house must own a gun. Most human instincts are survival, therefore the vast majority aren’t going to bust into somewhere knowing that they will die.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 08/10/2015 at 19:04

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Indeed it is.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 08/10/2015 at 19:05

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Y’all gonna end up with Bush anyway :P

Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:06

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Unless Trump runs as an independent and sinks him. Or Clinton is just to powerful.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 19:10

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How insane is it to mandate every house to own a gun, of course it fucking worked in a 30,000 people nowhere town, people are scared of guns, I’m talking about deaths. I’m not surprised Kennesaw also had a million dollar Racial Lawsuit against it.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Hahayoustupidludditeshutupandgohandcrankyourmodeltalready 08/10/2015 at 19:10

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I meant you’d end up with Bush as the republican alternative, not that you’d end up with him as a president.

The main problem with Hillary is that she’s old.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:16

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To be honest, it’s because the GOP leadership in DC has been, not to put too fine a point on it, only taking a cursory glance at what those who are responsible in the process for sending them to office are actually saying.

In other words, they are ignoring their voters, and have been doing so for the last 6 years or so. After the last election cycle for the US Senate, the party base is so upset with leadership that they are picking the one person who isn’t, well, part of the party (Trump used to be a Democrat in NY).

The GOP Leadership is directly responsible for cultivating the conditions that have given the Trump campaign legs. Had they even listened to their voters A SMIDGE in the last 6 or so years, Trump would have already been an also ran.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 19:16

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It’s not insane if it works. Chicago is one of the most dangerous cities in the U.S., they also have some of the strictest gun laws in the country. It doesn’t work. It never has, and it never will.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anders_Be…

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:18

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I was gonna type out a long response to this but I got bored. Have a meme my friend just sent me instead.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs 08/10/2015 at 19:20

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That’s true. What I as a non-American can’t fathom is the whole thing about Democrats or Republicans.. Why don’t people vote for something else if they don’t like how things are. Here in Norway we actually say “FUCK YOU” and vote for a different party.

dogisbadob > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:23

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two words: Carly Fiorina

dogisbadob > Baeromez 08/10/2015 at 19:24

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This x1000

Also why Arnold won California governor, and other celebrities have won elected offices.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE 08/10/2015 at 19:25

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Come on man. I’m no trying to be an ass here, nor do I say I’m the one with the solution. I would love to get a proper explanation from someone in the US. I get that tons of people in the US see Trump as some huge story of victory, but do people actually think he can “save” the country? And from what? The way I see it you’ve taken a few steps in the right direction with Obama, and Trump don’t like that at all.. But perhaps I’m wrong?

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 19:25

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Let me put it to you this way, Japan had 2 gun related murders last year, USA has 3 to every 100,000 people, guess why.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > dogisbadob 08/10/2015 at 19:27

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As in Arnold?

Textured Soy Protein > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:27

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Basically:

Many people in MURRICA are bigots who are afraid of the “other” i.e. immigrants (illegal or otherwise), non-white races, and non-Christian religions. They enjoy Trump’s comments about Mexicans supposedly being rapists and drug dealers, and then assume he shares all of their other bigoted opinions.

Many people in MURRICA don’t understand or don’t care about a political candidate’s actual policies, they care about the candidate’s personality. Things these people value include “telling it like it is,” “not backing down,” and “not being politically correct.” They feel that if a candidate does not censor themselves, this makes a candidate honest, because the candidate is not caving in to the pressure to be politically correct. They are impressed by Trump’s ability to say completely offensive things, upset lots of people, and then rather than apologize for the things he says, insult the people who say he is being offensive.

Many people in MURRICA believe in the myth of the political outsider who will ride in to Washington DC and change the way things are done there, “because they’re not a career politician.” So every career politician, of course, tries to cast themselves as anything other than a Washington insider, even if they’ve spent decades in government. Trump being a fat cat real estate developer/reality TV blowhard rather than a career politician makes him appealing for his non-politician-ness.

Many people in MURRICA think that politicians are bought by “special interests,” who give money to politicians and make them do bad things. This is probably true! Getting elected in MURRICA takes an ever-increasing amount of money, especially thanks to certain asshole supreme court justices who for some ridiculous reason decided that corporations should have the same free speech rights as people, and by free speech rights, they meant freedom to give giant piles of money to political candidates who suckle at the teet of said corporation and pass laws to benefit that corporation. Everyone regardless of political party tries to cast their opponents as beholden to “the special interests,” i.e. political donors who give politicians money to run their campaigns. Which is why you have a large number of the current GOP candidates, for example, fellating the billionaire Koch brothers at some resort in California . But Trump, he’s also a billionaire! He can pay for his own campaign! He can’t be bought by the special interests!

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(#4 is likely the only decent reason to support Trump, but in and of itself is hardly a reason to vote for someone.)

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Baeromez 08/10/2015 at 19:28

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I would’ve thought that politics counted more than the person.. I guess I was wrong.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 19:31

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People control and different definitions of homicide.

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Jap…

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Textured Soy Protein 08/10/2015 at 19:31

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4. There seems to me to be a good reason NOT to vote for him though, he’s only in it for personal reasons :)

But yeah, I understand it.. yet I don’t.

I know I’m stepping on toes here.. but to me it seems like the whole bloody system is bloody fucking ..well fucked.

Money Hustard > whoarder is tellurium 08/10/2015 at 19:32

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Such erudite commentary, please, go on.

Money Hustard > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:37

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He’s positioned himself at the center of a cultural proxy war. We have a long line of celebrities that have become more famous for saying horrifically racist and bigoted things. When they get attacked, people who also hold values that are no longer acceptable in the US rally behind that person. They act as if they are allergic to political correctness, and it’s somehow a bad thing to follow.

Second, he’s by far the most critical of public servants and politicians. He wants to hold office, but accuses everyone who does of being a mooching bum. The GOP eats that line up. If you are a republican and think DC is a place where good things happen, you can’t be elected.

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 19:38

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I give up, you keep giving me some bullshit right-wing biased non-fact bullshit, it is simple, gun are for killing stuff, you take the guns, shit don’t get killed.

“Civil Libertarian nightmare”

“American’s own tradition of Freedom”

The right wing has a difficulty understand this “Freedom” you tout as a value as what it really is, selfishness. People don’t need guns, they serve no use other than to cause harm to other living beings, that is literally what they were invented for.

If you kill a home intruder, or some drunk kid that wandered into your yard, it is still murder.

Textured Soy Protein > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:40

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Politics is a very imperfect system, everywhere. I don’t know if it’s worse in the US or everywhere else, but it’s a messy business. No politician is going to be perfect, ever. The best you can hope for is to pick the one that mostly lines up with your point of view and hope that enough other people also like that same person.

As someone who will never, ever vote for a republican, I’m thrilled with Trump’s candidacy. He’s making everything a mess for the republicans. They’re being drawn into his sideshow and to general voters outside of the republican base, it can’t look good. If he ends up not winning the republican nomination and runs as an independent, which he could very well do, that’ll divide the right-wing vote, and effectively hand the presidency to the democrat.

It’s pretty much what happened in 1992 with H.W. Bush-Clinton-Perot. Ross Perot was a sort of libertarian candidate and picked off a lot of the republican base. The popular vote ended up being 43% Clinton, 37% Bush, 19% Perot. If a good chunk of those Perot voters had instead picked Bush, then Bush could very well have won the election.

BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:41

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No you’re not being an ass; you seem like a nice guy. I’ve never had a bad interaction with you on here. I just decided that it wasn’t worth it to type out a long post because it likely wouldn’t change your mind. It seems that we have two very different political ideologies and come from two very different countries, with very little to no knowledge of the other. Personally, I believe in government limited by the Constitution; I’m not a fan of nanny-state socialism at all (just look at the mess that is California). I believe in a free-market economy with enough government intervention to make sure that it doesn’t run amok. There has to be a good balance. This was probably a tangent, so sorry about that. But like I said earlier, people like Trump because they think that he has the balls to get things done. That’s not necessarily what I think, but that is the appeal. Full disclosure: I really like Marco Rubio. He is a product of the American Dream and I love it. His parents came from Cuba (legally) when he was a kid, and his father worked his ass off to provide for his family and made it. Rubio is a testament to the fact that hard work really does pay off here. It helps that he seems like he’s just an all-around really great guy as well.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > My citroen won't start 08/10/2015 at 19:42

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The simple fact is, if you enacted gun control, it would cause a civil war and even more blood would be shed. Besides statistically it isn’t the gun loving right wing bullshitters that have the problem with killing people.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > Money Hustard 08/10/2015 at 19:42

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OK. Not being an ass here, but what you’re saying is that the whole electoral system is fucked due to the fact that you’ve in reality only have two political parties? You can’t actually vote for something you really believe in, you’ll have to settle for the closest thing?

My citroen won't start > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 08/10/2015 at 19:44

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That’s right, they don’t have a problem killing people, they do it so casually. The only reason a civil war would happen is people were allowed to stockpile vast amounts of guns in the first place out of fucking selfishness. “Fuck it that millions of innocents are dying, I want to keep this oversized health hazard that has no use out of war zone, because MAH FREEDUM"

Money Hustard > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:44

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I second Mr. Ontop’s sentiment as well. Last time around this guy was winning at this stage of the game:

El Rivinado > Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh 08/10/2015 at 19:44

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Simply put, two reasons.

1: he draws in a crowd.

2: He actually speak what he means.

Granted I could argue point 2 could be argued as I could easily argue about the so-called “honesty” of his statements and I could probably point out the hypocrisy in some of them. But point 2 matters for one simple reason.

To some(myself included) they equate “saying what you feel” as “honest”

The fact of the matter is, in America, both parties have become like used car salesman, saying what they want to hear and then stifling the sucker in question because they got their business. Every Politician is treated as a snake oil salesmen who says what their voters want to hear and promise all these great things but probably won’t offer any of these if they get to term. As a result, we are pre-ordained to distrust them because we know it’s all a puppet show.

But for Trump, saying the inflammatory things that even the extremists in his party are afraid to say and pretty much never apologizing for it, to most people that says more about the people than it does about him. There is a big sect of the U.S that admires the fact that he says what he says and doesn’t try to hide it, and considering the distrust in Washington from both sides of the coin and considering the idea that we can’t trust what any political candidate says, that honesty, no matter how inflammatory or controversial, matters. Because to some people, we have what Washington as well as the party’s have been lacking for a long time, an honest politician (as oxymoronic as that may seem)

Of course, I don’t like both parties myself and I don’t agree with Trump at all, but I at least get the thought process. Me personally, I would rather we get a Libertarian (or even a republican that’s not so extreme or doesn’t pander to the backwards living/Jesus!/Old person crowd) but considering what Ron Paul’s down to the Libertarian image (and the fact both parties have to cater to the extremists because they’re the only guys that actually go out and vote) the chances of that happening are the same chances as finding a Unicorn on Mars.

Laird Andrew Neby Bradleigh > BReLp7dzHM3ytYsE 08/10/2015 at 19:45

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ahh.. I understand what you’re saying now. Thanks mate :)

Just an FYI though. Cali does NOT have anything even CLOSE to socialism :P